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Chapter 395 Talking about profit

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    Yunyao¡¯s words cheered up Juzi and made him realize that he had gone astray.

    Whether an idea is good or not can only be known by implementing it, not just talking about it verbally.  Just like in the story of the old farmer and the cow, no matter how nice it sounds, it's another story in practice.

    Yunyao would not have thought that her little story of humiliating the Song Dynasty would be recorded in the Mohist classics in the future.

    Since we have talked about implementation, Juzi will talk to Mo Wei and Yunyao about "Shangtong". He asked Yunyao: "What do you think of Shangtong? Can it be implemented to the end?"

    "I don't think so." Yunyao said.

    "Why?" Juzi was not too excited. In fact, he also knew very well that it was unrealistic for the king to listen to God.  The giants are not stupid, but they are helpless. As civilians, what qualifications do they have to ask the king to do anything?  There can only be another existence above the king.

    Later, the Confucian doctrine of the unity of nature and man, and the divine right of kings, actually played the same trick.  It is also to restrain the monarch's power, so it is set that the monarch's power must be managed by God. If God brings natural or man-made disasters, the emperor must be unqualified.

    Later, the divine right of kings was no longer easy to use, so the people's will was introduced to constrain the monarchy. If the emperor did not follow the people's will, he was unqualified. As for the specific content of the people's will, the final interpretation power rested with the scholar-bureaucrats.

    It is also a helpless move for Juzi to propose that God supports universal love to restrain the monarch.  In fact, it is not only difficult to make the king obey God, but also difficult to make everyone listen to the leader.

    Shangtong is basically the most ideal situation, and Juzi doesn¡¯t think it can be achieved.

    "Then how can we make everyone accept universal love and realize universal love?" Juzi couldn't help but ask.

    Taoist Lingbao thought that the giant asked too many questions. If Yunyao answered, wouldn't it be good for her to become a giant?

    But after asking the question, Yunyao just answered: "I said, 'Governing a big country is like cooking small delicacies.' I said, 'Governing a big country is like doing business.' Governing a country must pay attention to capital." If Mencius heard this sentence  If you say anything, you will definitely get a look on your face. If you don¡¯t talk about benevolence or righteousness, speaking is capital and profit. Mencius disdains to talk to such people.

    But Juzi doesn¡¯t have so many rules. He is willing to listen to Yunyao¡¯s thoughts: ¡°Please continue.¡±

    "Let's not talk about the ancient times, even in the early days of the Zhou Dynasty. At that time, it was enough to deal with criminals by setting up a prison and sitting with a rock in their arms as punishment. It is definitely not possible now. There are prisons and torture, but even so,  It still cannot change the social atmosphere, and the world is still getting worse. But as the criminal law becomes more and more stringent, more people have to be hired to enforce the law, which means more capital has to be spent and more taxes have to be collected." "Confucian Calling  The purpose of self-denial and restoration of etiquette is to hope that everyone will return to the past, and everyone will spontaneously abide by the rules and reduce the cost of governance. Therefore, I am sure that Confucianism will definitely flourish in the future, because Confucianism requires everyone to be conscious, so that the monarch can govern the country with the least cost.  ¡±

    "Huh?" Youzi didn't expect Yunyao to assert that Confucianism was booming, but what he said was reasonable. If everyone didn't realize it, they would have to spend more money to manage the country, and the monarch would definitely be unhappy.  In other words, if the monarch wants to save money, he must promote Confucianism.

    Considering the cost, Ju Zi thought that if 'Shang Tong' were to be implemented, it would definitely cost a lot of money. He said: "Confucian benevolence involves distant and distant relatives. It is based on blood and clan. The relationship between parents and children is established from the birth of the child. Naturally,  Don¡¯t spend money to maintain it. But the universal love advocated by Mohism is not based on blood, and it will cost more to promote it, so you say that Shang Tong is impossible to achieve? "

    "Yes, I don't think any country has such sufficient capital to practice Shangtong. Especially when there is a candidate option of Confucian benevolence, Shangtong will not be chosen."

    The reason why Juzi proposed the theory of gods and ghosts was actually because the Mohists could not afford Shang Tong's costs, so they introduced the concept of ghosts and gods to reduce costs.  The theory of ghosts and gods is still somewhat useful at the bottom level, but it is of no use to nobles and officials.

    The boss was silent after listening. Yunyao's words made sense. Although they were told from the perspective of 'profit', if everyone did not consciously accept the proposition, it would inevitably cost money to implement the proposition.  The cost of harsh punishments is much higher than the cost of prison, but once people become flexible, it is difficult to realize it, and they will inevitably rely on external costs for management.

    Therefore, Taoists believe that the best ideal era is not the Confucian Western Zhou Dynasty and Yao, Shun, and Yu, but the primitive tribal era, when everyone was very conscious.

    "Then how do we make people conscious?" asked Juzi. Since consciousness is the state with the lowest management cost, how do we make people conscious?

    The Confucian teachings of self-denial, sacrificing one's life for righteousness, and maintaining the principles of nature and destroying human desires are all for people to become self-aware, and they are all standards for self-awareness.

    "Guan Zhong did it."??Yao said: "When the Qi State was prosperous and strong, the people of the Qi State were very conscious. So Guan Zhong proposed that 'the warehouse is solid and you know the etiquette, and the food and clothing are sufficient and you know the honor and disgrace.' This is a kind of consciousness that spontaneously pursues happiness. At the same time, nowadays  People all over the world are also observing a special kind of "consciousness", which is to restrain the upper level from the lower level. Although no one likes to restrain the upper level from the lower level, no matter the time, place, country or age, everyone is lowering the lower level to the upper level, and no one is whipped with a whip.  , and did not use swords to force them, but everyone invariably embarked on the path of defeating the superior, which shows that this is also a kind of consciousness. "

    "Is it self-consciousness to overcome the superior?" Juzi was stunned. He thought self-consciousness was good, just like Confucianism believed that morality was good. They did not realize that the universality of the world is contradiction and unity.

    Only Taoists realize it.

    "In fact, our understanding of the world is very limited, and we are just blind people feeling the elephant. As far as self-consciousness is concerned, what Guan Zhong achieved is a kind of self-consciousness. The following is also a kind of self-consciousness, but we can summarize it and let everyone be self-aware.  You have to meet the two conditions of having enough food, clothing and clothing and getting a promotion. This is my summary of experience."

    The giant immediately disagreed: "How can this be? If everyone pursues the following to conquer the superior, instead of the sage, then there will be a large number of villains and treacherous ministers with unworthy morals. How can the world be good?"

    "This involves selection costs and management costs. It costs money to select talents, and it also costs money to manage talents well."

    ¡°You don¡¯t have the consciousness of selecting talents and being an official?¡± asked Juzi.

    "I'm afraid that these two items must be managed with capital and cannot rely on self-consciousness. Because in the final analysis, self-consciousness is to follow human nature, and if you want to achieve the ideal state of selecting talents and serving as officials, you must go against human nature and be willing to let go of your power.  Giving to others is the level of the Three Sovereigns and Five Emperors. To be a good official is to dedicate one's energy to lead a large number of people to live a good life. It is to ignite oneself and illuminate others, which is self-harm. This cannot be done consciously, but must rely on high-cost management.  ." That is to say, we have to rely on the law, but it only treats the symptoms rather than the root cause, and it is difficult to achieve self-consciousness.

    "That is to say, anything that can help you live a good life can be done consciously. Anyone who dedicates himself to helping others live a good life must spend money to guide and maintain it, except for the blood of parents and children." Juzi has a very high IQ.  Gao not only understood Yunyao's description, but also summarized it.

    Yunyao nodded in agreement with part of Mozi's summary, and added: "The first point is not perfect. You should be aware of things that can see benefits in the short term. If you persist in the long term, it will be beneficial to you. If you can't see the benefits in the short term,  It¡¯s also hard to be self-aware.¡±

    Therefore, Yunyao, a fairy, is powerless. Her capital is not enough to maintain peace in the world, but only enough to help the people around her.

    The giant fell into deep thought. It was obvious that this dialogue was very helpful in improving the Mohist propositions, and at the same time it was subversive and needed to be digested.

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