Xu Yishan decided to personally receive the two reporters from Yanjing.
The conversation took place in a business room of the Treeline Holiday Hotel.
The two reporters, a man and a woman, seemed to be very interested in Xu Yishan. As soon as they met, they saw Xu Yishan from head to toe, looked at each other with a smile and said, "We thought you had three heads and arms, so you are also an ordinary person."
These joking words quickly shortened the distance between them.
After exchanging pleasantries, the male reporter smiled and said, "Secretary Xu, why don't we start the interview now?"
Xu Yishan nodded, "Okay."
"We need to record and video the whole process, Secretary Xu won't object?"
"No problem." Xu Yishan replied straightforwardly: "There is nothing shameful, you can record it as you like."
The topic begins with the history of Hengyue. The two reporters seem to be familiar with the history of Hengyue. They said with regret: "In the past, the industrial center of the whole country was in the north, and there was only Hengyue in the south, supporting half of the country. It is a pity that Hengyue has declined in the tide of reform and opening up. Of course, the city is most famous for its That battle lasted for more than a month, completely reversing the development trend of the global war. Secretary Xu, this is a city of heroes."
Xu Yishan smiled slightly and said: "We have never forgotten the blood that our ancestors shed. For the sake of national independence and to make the people of the world live with dignity, they sacrificed their heads and shed their blood, so that today's peaceful world can only be achieved. If we forget The original intention was to betray them."
The reporter followed with a slight smile, "So, you are conducting direct elections in the Hengyue area?"
Xu Yishan said: "I think direct election is the most direct and effective method of election. Only through direct election can the common people choose someone they are satisfied with to lead them. We humans have a deep-rooted herd effect The leading sheep is the leader who decides whether a group of sheep will go to the light or to the end. If the leading sheep is not selected well, no matter how hard the following sheep work, they will not be able to walk on the right path.¡±
"Okay, Secretary Xu, can you talk in detail about why you want to be directly elected in Hengyue."
Xu Yishan pondered for a while, and said resolutely: "Direct elections are an inevitable development trend in the future. No political party or individual can stop the torrent of history. The common people may have bowed their heads in the past, but now, with the unlimited development of information, society is progressing. Earth-shaking changes have taken place in people's ideology. The common people are no longer limited to satisfying food and clothing, and they have begun to pursue a higher level of spiritual needs and freedom. This will inevitably drive the wheel of history to roll forward."
"History has never been stagnant. No one can turn the wheel of the times back. I dare to conclude that after 50 years, human beings will only pursue freedom and civilization, and any doctrine will be swept into the garbage dump of history. "
"Ideology will gradually be diluted, and there will only be one last goal left for human beings, to live freely and with dignity, and to enjoy the brilliance that life brings to everyone."
The female reporter clapped her hands and laughed, "That's really good!"
The male reporter frowned tightly, without saying a word, motioning Xu Yishan to continue talking.
Xu Yishan said: "To be honest, I never think that a system can last for a long time, and I never think that a doctrine can bring mankind into a better era. I hope that the world will have a social situation of equality and freedom. I do not praise No kind of doctrine, nor presumptuously underestimate any kind of doctrine. I believe that behind all doctrines, there is ugliness hidden.¡±
The male reporter suddenly said: "Secretary Xu, your thinking is very dangerous."
Xu Yishan smiled and said, "I know."
"Have you ever thought that with your current thinking, there is no way to be accepted. Then, you will be excluded, and you will even suffer all kinds of unimaginable blows."
"I see."
The male reporter sighed and said slowly: "Secretary Xu, let me tell you something you don't like to hear. If you still insist on your thinking, you may be eliminated soon."
"I'm ready."
The male reporter pondered for a while and asked: "Don't you know that our conversation may form internal reference materials?"
"I know. This is the expression of my true meaning. I can also accept pressure from any aspect. If I am out because of this, I hope that the person who succeeds me can still hold up this flag."
"You mean the banner of direct elections?"
Xu Yishan nodded firmly.
"Secretary Xu, have you ever considered that under our current conditions, direct elections will have many difficulties that cannot be overcome. For example, how do the masses choose the leader they approve of???? "
Xu Yishan said with a smile: "Our direct election is not without barriers."
"If there is a threshold, it means changing the soup but not the medicine." The male reporter sneered at him: "Secretary Xu's move is not for eyeballs, is it?"
Xu Yishan was angry, but he didn't show it on his expression.
"Comrade journalists, if you think so, I will not explain it."
"You don't need to explain. However, we want to know what is your purpose for insisting on direct elections."
This sentence really upset Xu Yishan.
He thought in his heart, yes, what is the purpose of direct election? If we say that the purpose of direct elections is only to satisfy the common people's victory in fighting for rights, then the reason for direct elections seems somewhat pale.
He knows better than anyone else that human society is always a natural law in which one class leads another. No matter how far the society develops, no matter how brilliant the civilization is.
If human society loses this law of leadership, it will be in chaos and eventually lead to the extinction of human beings.
The conversation went on all day. Meals are delivered to the room for a few mouthfuls.
The content of their conversation started from direct elections and gradually penetrated into the core ideas of governance. When talking about Xu Yishan¡¯s first ban on setting off fireworks in a city, the female reporter interjected and said: ¡°I think that setting off fireworks and firecrackers during the New Year It¡¯s not just a celebration, it¡¯s more about cultural inheritance. Haven¡¯t we always insisted on cultural confidence? Even fireworks and firecrackers are banned, where¡¯s the confidence?¡±
The male reporter explained: "The biggest harm of setting off fireworks and firecrackers is to make noise and pollute the air, which is harmful but not beneficial."
The female reporter refuted him: "Isn't it a benefit that can bring people joy?"
Seeing the two reporters arguing about this, Xu Yishan quickly smoothed things over and said: "The two reporters should stop arguing. I admit that there is indeed the situation of making noise and polluting the air that this comrade mentioned. But compared to fireworks and firecrackers that make everyone There are happy smiles on people's faces, and I prefer to see smiling faces."
In the evening, the interview finally came to an end.
Xu Yishan invited the two reporters to a welcome dinner, but they politely declined.
The male reporter said that he needs to spend time sorting out the content of the conversation. He is responsible for the accurate and unerring expression of the content of the conversation.
Xu Yishan understood the meaning of his words. It seems that it is not a lie that the content of the conversation forms an internal reference.
Seeing that the reporter insisted on resigning and not going to the banquet, Xu Yishan didn't ask any more.
When leaving, the male reporter held his hand tightly and said emotionally: "Secretary Xu, I hope you will take every step steadily. The society needs cadres like you. I think you are doing the right thing."
He said apologetically: "Unfortunately, I can only convey your thoughts to the above. As for what the above thinks, I can't do anything. I hope you are safe!"
Nie Bo and Zhou Qin were still waiting in his office.
They didn't dare to leave all day, and Xu Yishan had a long talk behind closed doors with reporters, which touched the hearts of countless people.
Journalists are uncrowned kings. Especially this kind of reporter who is qualified to write internal references. Their interviews are likely to change the future of an era.
Seeing Xu Yishan come back, Nie Bo hurriedly asked: "How is the situation?"
Xu Yishan smiled and said: "What is the situation? What should you do or what should you do? This matter has nothing to do with you."