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Chapter 163 Yanzhou Army Battles Changshan (2)

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    Indeed, among Sun Jian's sons, Sun Yi was not as good as Sun Quan, Sun Kuang was not as good as Sun Quan, Sun Lang was even worse, and only Sun Ce was assassinated.  Therefore, among Sun Jian's sons, Sun Quan was not as good as his brother in many places, but he was better than his brother in other places.  His younger brothers were indeed just younger brothers in front of him.  Except that Sun Yi is better than Sun Quan in martial arts, in other aspects, they are indeed basically inferior to Sun Quan. This is absolutely correct.  As for Sun Cexing, it's a pity that he is gone a long time ago, so there is nothing we can do.  So from a historical and romantic perspective, Sun Quan was chosen, and he did indeed do a good job in maintaining the unity, yes.  Indeed, that's why Cao Cao said, "Having a son should be like Sun Zhongmou." There is more or less the meaning of admiring him in these words, which is indeed indispensable.  But after all, in terms of seniority, Cao Cao is of the same generation as Sun Jian, so it can be said that he is the generation of Sun Quan's father and the generation above him, which is absolutely correct.  And he also had that intention. Cao Cao wanted to say that if his son was like Sun Quan and could defend the country, then that would be fine.  However, from a historical perspective, Cao Pi said that he was capable, but compared with Sun Quan, he was indeed worse. This is absolutely true.  As the founding emperor of Soochow, Sun Quan was a figure who could compete with Cao Cao and Liu Bei.  As for Cao Pi, he is definitely not as good as his father, and compared to Liu Bei, he is actually no better.  As for Liu Da'er, not even Cao Cao could do anything about him, let alone Cao Pi.  If he had said that his son could have saved the country, perhaps Cao Cao would not have said that.  If Cao Pi was said to be stronger than Sun Quan in every aspect, Cao Cao would definitely not say that. Since he said that, he meant to show his seniority. In the same way, he felt that Sun Quan did a good job, at least he could defend.  Keep yourself on the attack.  As for his own son, asking him to defend himself would be inferior to Sun Quan.  He inherited the big position from his father and brother, which is indeed quite good. If he can hold on to it, it will be good.  In fact, Cao Cao didn't have particularly high expectations for his son. As long as he can keep it, it's not wrong, really.  In his opinion, if he were no longer around, then his son would not be a match for Liu Bei and Sun Quan. The two of them could be said to be more powerful than the other, and Cao Cao felt this deeply.  They are people who can compete with Cao Cao, so Cao Pi is not as good as his father, so he is not as good as Sun Liu.  Therefore, Cao Pi is indeed not good enough. He is not as capable as his father, but his ambition is not small. In order to become emperor, he knows best how many benefits he has given to the wealthy families.  No, although it is true that Cao Wei was strong enough at that time, the aristocratic families were not weak at all, and obviously, historically they could not compare with the Liangzhou Army, and in some places were even inferior to the current Yanzhou Army.  So this is also true. We must admit that when Cao Pi became emperor, his ambition made him like that, but it has never been easy to become emperor.  He wants to proclaim himself emperor, and if he is strong enough, he can make Liu Xie abdicate and compromise, but if he doesn't benefit the wealthy family, they will not approve of it, indeed.  As soon as Cao Pi proclaimed himself emperor, Liu Bei followed closely and also proclaimed himself emperor.  There is only Sun Quan. He is not qualified to be emperor, so he can only be the king. There is no other way.  Sun Quan felt aggrieved. It's not that he didn't want to be emperor, but he didn't have the conditions. There was nothing he could do about it, that's true.  So this is true. If he is Sun Ce, who is the boss of the Jiangdong Army, and proclaiming himself emperor is not possible for the time being, then he must step up to create favorable conditions for himself and proclaim himself emperor as soon as possible. This is his idea  .  As for Sun Quan, he wanted to become emperor, but the conditions were not enough, so he had to take his time. Sun Quan was still incomparable to Sun Ce in terms of expanding territory, and that's right.  After finally getting Jingzhou back, Liu Bei came again to fight at Yiling, and so did they. It was indeed a lot of trouble, and that was enough.  Sun Ce is definitely much better than Sun Quan in terms of pioneering and enterprising, that is.  So when it comes to proclaiming himself emperor, it was only in the 8th or 9th year of Sun Quan that he finally did it. But if it were Sun Ce, it might not be too little, but if it comes to three to five years, there will still be no big problem, and he will definitely be able to grasp it.  live.  Yes, this is the difference between Sun Ce and Sun Quan. If the latter maintains his status, then there is absolutely no problem.  Sun Quan has powerful enemies as big as Cao Cao and Cao Jun in the north, and Liu Bei in the west who doesn't play according to the routine. It can be said that he can still occupy a place in the world and occupy one third of the world. Then it can be said that Sun Quan is definitely capable.  of one.  So even Li Zongwu said that Sun Quan was thick and black, which is true.  From a person's point of view, it can be regarded as surviving in the cracks between Cao Cao and Liu Bei, Cao Jun and Liu Bei. That's true.  Cao Cao is the strongest in the north first, so Jiangdong cannot do without Liu Bei, and must always unite with them to deal with the north and Cao Cao together. This is Lu Su's strategy, always unite with the second one, and deal with the strongest one together.  It is a pity that Lu Su died young, but for his strategy, perhapsWhat about the Battle of Yiling, really.  Again, among the Jiangdong Army, Lu Su was the least in favor of using force to seize Jingzhou, because that would be tantamount to a complete break with Liu Bei's side, and it could be said that this was definitely not a good thing.  It's impossible for Lu Meng and the others to not see it at all, but they still did it, obviously thinking that there were more benefits, and they were all benefits.  If a hawkish figure like Lu Meng were to be the governor, a battle between Jiangdong and Liu Bei would be inevitable. This was actually inevitable.  Indeed, once the doves like Lu Su, who have been maintaining the alliance, are gone, and the hawks like Lu Meng come to power, a war in Jingzhou is actually destined.  In fact, it is not that Sun Quan has never asked Lu Meng, and what Lu Meng means is that his side is not unable to occupy the territory in the north, but at most it can capture a few counties in Xuzhou, which is not the biggest benefit to his side.  interests.  After all, Xuzhou's territory is relatively easy for our side to win, not very difficult.  But that place is easy to take, but difficult to hold. That's absolutely true.  Lu Meng knew very well that even if his side captured several counties in Xuzhou, Cao Cao might come with a large army in a few days, but he would not be his opponent.  Therefore, he would not suggest using troops against Xuzhou, so in the end he would have to march westward to capture Jingzhou. This can be said to have been what Sun Quan wanted all along. Lu Meng and the others naturally thought so too, that's right.  When Lu Su was still there, he could suppress some militants. Jiangdong always lived in peace with Liu Bei, but now that he is gone, Lu Meng doesn't care about that, soit's a pity that Lu Su is  After finally maintaining the situation, does anyone know that if we really want to capture Jingzhou, will we be able to do so?  As the top strategist in the world, Lu Su naturally knew that the outcome would have to be won by his own side.  But after that, this one has already broken up with Liu Bei. It is easy to say that it is easy to take Jingzhou, but then we have to face the crazy attack of Liu Bei, and even fight to the death.  For the army, it was of no benefit at all. Instead, it gave Cao's army in the north an advantage.  In this regard, Lu Su would never do that. His idea was to unite with Liu Bei and fight against Cao Cao. This point of view was the most basic. But when it came to Lu Meng, Lu Su's previous efforts were nothing short of thorough.  All in vain.  He didn't think carefully about why he still maintained the Sun-Liu alliance in such a situation even when Lu Su was gone.  In fact, looking back, if it really comes down to it, Lu Su has to be superior. It is said that Lu Meng and the others were just doing it for themselves, but Lu Su really grasped the overall situation and saw the whole world. This is absolutely correct.  So if we really follow Lu Su's idea, Shu and Wu will not be greatly damaged in strength, then at least Cao Wei wants to destroy Shu and Wu, it is indeed not that simple, really.  Otherwise, the Battle of Yiling was also one of the three major battles of the Three Kingdoms, and it was the last one.  Needless to say, the impact of the previous Battle of Guandu and Chibi was huge, but the impact of the Battle of Yiling was still great.  Although it is not as good as the Battle of Chibi in some places, it is true that the Battle of Yiling had a far-reaching impact.  Originally, Liu Bei's side had advantages and strength, but with the Battle of Yiling, it went from prosperity to decline. No one can change this, so there is no way.  Otherwise, Liu Bei's Shu Han side would have had some strength.  Some people thought it was time for the Northern Expedition, but except for Jingzhou, there was nothing they could do about it.  It is true that Wei is strong, but if Shu and Wu unite together, they can indeed deal with it. That's right.  Regardless of whether it is in history or in romance, at least Shu and Wu Jia can still deal with Cao Wei, that's right.  But in this era, although the Yanzhou Army plus the Jiangdong Army are not unable to deal with the Liangzhou Army, most of them still suffer losses, or even suffer big losses. It is definitely impossible to survive for decades like in history.  In a few years, it will be about the same. Jiangdong Army and Yanzhou Army will definitely be much stronger than the Sun-Liu Alliance in history. This is in terms of strength.  But the Liangzhou Army is much stronger than Cao Wei in history, so after comparing it, it is stronger than the situation in history, and even in some places it is stronger than in the novel, that is.  After all, it is true that this era is the Three Kingdoms period at the end of the Eastern Han Dynasty, but it is definitely fictitious. There are situations in history and in novels. Ma Chao knows the comprehensive version very well.  So this is more exciting than history than romance. You see, your own experience is actually not enough. There are many more exciting aspects than this, that¡¯s right.  So now it is definitely not a history, let alone a novel, but a comprehensive version of them, and it is more exciting than history and novels.  Moreover, Ma Chao knew that what he read in the past was in books after all, and it couldn't be as real as this person. That's right.  To give a random example, let¡¯s talk about Cao Cao. He was under the influence of Ma Chao before. Before he met him, he was indeed imaginary.But what kind of person is he?  Ma Chao thinks that the biggest characteristic of Cao Cao is his traitorous character. Of course, there must be some people who have other opinions. This is normal, but that's how he sees it.  But now I have met him many times and dealt with him many times. I really know a lot about him, and he has had such a profound influence on Ma Chao. That is absolutely true.  ¡°And Ma Chao admires Cao Cao more. He has met Liu Bei many times and had contact with him, but Ma Chao doesn¡¯t like him. There is really nothing we can do about it.  But that's right, although I haven't dealt with Liu Bei that many times, and I can't compare with Cao Cao, but I don't know why, maybe it was the first impression that Liu Bei gave Ma Chao, which was particularly bad.  Of course, what he learned from books before the first impression made Ma Chao dislike Liu Bei. There was nothing he could do about it.  But indeed, he admitted that he had real abilities and great abilities.  The real Liu Bei in history can be said to have some brains, but he is definitely not like what is written in the novel. You have to ask Zhuge Liang for everything. In fact, many military matters were done by Liu Bei. Indeed, together with Kong Ming  It doesn't matter much.  Therefore, Liu Bei is definitely not useless in history or now, but Ma Chao doesn't like him, and there is nothing he can do about it.  Liu Bei also knew Ma Chao's attitude towards him, but he just smiled at this.  There was nothing he could do about this.  He is different from Liu Xie. Liu Xie obviously knows that Ma Chao despises him, so he also hates Ma Chao extremely. This has always been the case.  But as for Liu Bei, this person is very deep-rooted. At least Ma Chao has that attitude. He doesn't have much idea. Instead, he thinks it's normal. Although he also wants to change, he doesn't have a good way.  So it can be seen from this that Liu Xie really cannot compare to Liu Bei.  He knew that Ma Chao looked down upon him, so he wondered how he was inferior to Liu Bian?  Aren¡¯t you superior to others in many ways?  But what Liu Bei wanted more was how to change Ma Chao's mind. This was very important.  He already had a formidable enemy, Cao Cao and Cao Mengde, and Ma Mengqi had such an attitude towards him. Indeed, this was what Liu Bei had originally thought.  So when Liu Xie compared this with others, the gap immediately emerged. That's true.  But when I think about it, if Liu Xie had Liu Bei's two moves, he wouldn't be like that, really.  At least Liu Bei is definitely better than him, and he can compete with Ma Chao, Cao Cao, and Sun Ce.  But it won't work if it's Liu Xie. He's not easy to use. He can't even deal with Cao Cao, let alone Ma Chao, really.  Add Sun Ce and it's complete.
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