"Our Ming Dynasty is a country that respects the Emperor. Everything is dominated by the Emperor. The Emperor is the supreme being. However, the teachings taught by your sect regard God as the highest and the will of the Pope as the highest command. Isn't this right? Don¡¯t we want the people to betray our lord? If things go on like this, the country will be ruined. Therefore, the Ming Dynasty must reject the spread of Catholicism in the Ming Dynasty.¡± Li Guopu first affirmed it and then made a conclusion. "God is high above and is the master of all things. Even the heaven and the earth were created by God. Being under God's protection and receiving the gospel of God are the blessings of the Ming Dynasty and the blessings of the people of the Ming Dynasty. Shenzong had already allowed our religion to spread in the Ming Dynasty. Now You have broken your promise and refused to teach me. Are you provoking me?" Jin Nige no longer had the gentle and gentlemanly demeanor before, and asked in a colder voice. "Shenzong allowed your religion to spread in the Ming Dynasty, but he was actually deceived by your religion. Did your religion explicitly tell Shenzong at that time? Once you believe in your religion, which one is higher or lower between the emperor's position and the pope's position? Even today, our emperor has Ask, who is superior between me and the Pope? When the two emperors meet, should I salute him or the Pope salute me? " As soon as Li Guopu said this, everyone was silent. This question was so ridiculous. Even in Europe, this sentence cannot be explained clearly in one sentence, because the relationship between the king and the pope also has stages. Because there is a certain time limit for the relationship between the pope and the king. Early Christianity was persecuted in the Roman Empire. Only when the Roman Empire declared Christianity as the state religion could the relationship between the pope and the king be possible. The first stage: the king decides on the pope. . After the Roman Empire recognized Christianity as its state religion, the Roman Empire brought Christianity under its protection. At this stage, successive emperors of the Roman Empire consciously became the protectors of Christianity and were deeply involved in the internal affairs of the Christian church. ÖÐ. Conflicts arising within the Christian church must be adjudicated by the Roman emperor, and the pope of the church can only take office after being approved by the Roman emperor. The second stage: the pope decides the king. After the fall of the Roman Empire, feudalism emerged in Europe, giving rise to large and small feudal kingdoms. The legality of these kings' power was not decided by themselves. It only became legal after being 'consecrated' by the pope. The pope did not 'consecrate'. 'The king is not legal. At this time, the pope has the right to decide on the king's accession to the throne. If the pope does not agree with a certain king's accession to the throne, as long as he does not 'consecrate' him, the king will be blind. So the pope has a problem at this time. The king's decision. The third stage: the pope and the king are equal. After the Reformation, the pope lost his decision-making power over the king. In fact, the religious reform movement in some European countries was launched with the explicit or covert support of the king. The religious reform attacked the pope's power to control secular society, and European society Separation of church and state. After the Reformation, the king and the pope were on equal footing, each doing their own thing. Since the Holy Roman Emperor Charles V captured Rome in 1526, subsequent popes have actually no longer dared to openly oppose the political activities of secular monarchs. But the kings of Europe and the emperors of the Ming Dynasty have completely different characteristics: European kings are the product of the feudal system, and the structure of the kingdom is divided into layers and passed down from generation to generation. Those who are enfeoffed have the obligation to pay income tax to the enfeoffors. It is about one-tenth of the income. So the structure of European kingdoms is a bit like hierarchical contracting. The king is a contractor, but his power is limited. But the emperor of Ming Dynasty is a highly centralized representative. China's state structure has been prefectures since Qin Dynasty. In the county system, the emperor appointed officials to manage, but the appointed officials rotated regularly. China's feudal system ended during the Qin Dynasty. Because this seal has become weaker and weaker. Feudalism refers to the establishment of a state by feudalism. In ancient times, emperors gave titles and land to relatives or meritorious officials so that they could establish states in each region. Look at China, where has this kind of feudal system existed since the Qin Dynasty? Precisely because the power of China¡¯s state power has begun to become infinitely concentrated and powerful, who can say clearly how religion and the emperor should be positioned? Only in the hands of a Catholic like Emperor Zongzhen can we have a clear explanation. ??And Zhu Youxiao asked Li Guopu to ask this question, but no one present could answer it. Of course there is a trap here, it's a matter of location. Just three types. High, low, and flat are three options, but no matter which one you choose, you will fall into Zhu Youxiao's trap. The Ming Emperor¡¯s position was higher than that of the Pope. Then what else is there to talk about. I don¡¯t want you to preach. It's that simple. If it is lower than. Why do you have to find someone with a higher position than the Ming Emperor? Are you sick? The Catholic Church is still sick and insists on imposing an emperor on the Ming Dynasty. Of course this Ming Dynasty would not allow it. ??????????????????????????????????? And equality. Since we are equal, I can allow you to come, or I can refuse you to come to preach. That is everyone¡¯s freedom, and no one can control anyone. Since this issue has been raised before, Jinni Pavilion doesn¡¯t know anything about it. But I know that this question is difficult to answer. "The question His Majesty Ming Emperor asked is a bit absurd. The Holy See of Rome is thousands of miles away, and the difficulties and twists and turns on the road are unimaginable. Neither His Majesty Ming Emperor nor the Pope can travel across the ocean, let alone meet each other. On that day, how can we say who pays homage to whom? "Although Jin Nige is not a Han, he is still good at pushing Tai Chi. "Your Excellency, although Europe is far away, the Mongolian cavalry can also reach it. How about me, the Holy Emperor of the Ming Dynasty, who has wiped out all the Mongolian tribes?" Li Guopu smiled lightly, and the meaning was quite long. Zheng Zhilong on the side also felt a chill when he heard this. Over the past year, he had followed Emperor Ming in his expeditions, and he had realized how powerful Emperor Ming was. It was of course the emperor's arrangement to participate in the negotiations as a deputy envoy. The reasons are quite simple. First, he is a Catholic himself. Second, he once served as a general in the Dutch fleet. Third, there is a naval battle, and he has a place to use. Of course, he knew the emperor's attitude towards Catholicism very well and had already withdrawn from it. His conversion to Christianity was just a means of communication. Of course, he could believe it or not. However, the people he came into contact with, whether they were Dutch, Portuguese or Spanish people on the ship, were all Catholics. He had also learned a little bit about the power of Catholicism, but he was not expecting to continue to threaten Catholicism without making any shocking remarks. Mongolia marched westward into Europe and reached the Danube River. This was the first confrontation between Europe and Mongolia. However, the founding of the Ming Dynasty drove away the Mongols, and there is another example of the current emperor's defeat of the 400,000-strong Mongolian army. The smell of gunpowder became even stronger when he said this. "Your Excellency Li Shangshu, it was more than 300 years ago that Mongolia was lucky enough to win when it entered Europe. But at this moment, the Mongols who were killed by the Ming Dynasty 200 years ago fled north. But a few years ago, there were people guarding the border. How difficult is it? How ferocious the Mongols are outside the border wall. Don't you know this? And three hundred years later, Europe has made great progress in terms of technology and weapons. Even the Ming Dynasty. In order to deal with the invasion of the slaves, Shang went to Macau to buy Portuguese cannons and hire Portuguese soldiers. I don¡¯t think there is any need to compare this difference! "Jin Nige looked at Li Guopu with a hint of contempt, did he think that Europe is now? Are you still as weak as before? "I agree very much with what your noble envoy said, so the Mongols can no longer be arrogant. Our emperor has beaten them to the point where they are about to be exterminated." Li Guopu took a sip of tea and said calmly. . "The affairs in Mongolia have nothing to do with our religion. Today I will only talk about the spread of Catholicism in the Ming Dynasty." "Okay, who is higher or lower between our emperor and your Pope? This question cannot be answered by your Majesty. They are thousands of miles apart. Your religion wants to preach to the people of the Ming Dynasty. If you believe in your religion, the people of the Ming Dynasty will be confused and don¡¯t know why they are here. Isn¡¯t it asking for trouble? My emperor does not want to cause this trouble, so the mission of your religion should be given up. "Let's go." Li Guopu talked eloquently, as if he was completely disdainful of salesmen coming to sell goods. "Spreading the gospel of the Lord is the tenet of our religion, and the Lord can bring the best protection to the people of the Ming Dynasty. Why are you so stubborn?" Nuwa, the great god who opened up the world to open up the flood and mended the sky with stones, Shen Nong who discovered medicinal herbs, Hou Ji who taught people how to farm, Gun Yu who controlled the floods, Suiren who drilled wood to make fire, Hou Yi who invented the bow and arrow, and our Three Sovereigns and Five Emperors Wait, wait, wait, there are countless gods and goddesses all over the sky, each with boundless magical power. They are all capable of catching stars and holding the moon. Moreover, the gods have made outstanding contributions to us Han people, and some even sacrificed themselves. They are heroes who have made great achievements in war for the Chinese nation. From the legends of the gods, we can clearly see the tenacious fighting will and the high spirit. They dare to fight and have the courage to fight for the survival of the Chinese nation. The fearless spirit of sacrifice, self-improvement, and self-sacrifice has moved countless generations of our people from generation to generation. They are also in line with the traditional style of our Han nation and have a positive spirit of struggle against fate. " "Since we are born as Han people, our ancestors are in our bodies. They have been living under the protection of these great gods. In order to thank the gods for everything they have done for our people, and to allow them to protect our people from generation to generation, our people sincerely worship each generation. They, they are our totems, our gods. Why do you forget your ancestors and worship foreign gods? " "Your white people's masters or gods have probably done great things to you white people. Your contribution is worthy of your worship, but what does this have to do with me, the Han people? Just as I, the Emperor of the Ming Dynasty, are the emperor and should be respected by all the people of the Ming Dynasty, my emperor should also shoulder the obligation to protect the people of the Ming Dynasty, butThis has nothing to do with you in Europe, do you think so? "(To be continued, please search Piaotian Literature, the novels will be better and updated faster!